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abc



Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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Hi!
Maybe a very stupid question but:

Is 10 Billion in English:
a) = 10 000 000 000
b) = 10 000 000 000 000

The reason why I ask this is, that www.dict calls me more possible solutions for "billion".
It could be "Billion" or "Milliarde" in German.

Thx
abc
Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:24 pm View user's profile Send private message
adum



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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option a)
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abc



Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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Hi again!

Thx for your answer adum!


I really think I just have the right answer, but it says "incorrect". Sad
So - I need some help again:
Can someone tell me please if it is right, that the population is 1227 at generation 4312.

Thank you in advance!
abc
Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:51 am View user's profile Send private message
michuber



Joined: 26 Oct 2008
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abc wrote:
Can someone tell me please if it is right, that the population is 1227 at generation 4312.

Yes, you should be on the right path.
Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:12 am View user's profile Send private message
Grammaton



Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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Location: Bavaria, Germany

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This game has a really nice Pattern Smile Looks like a highway Smile
I also have some Problems with this level. I am asking me, if we really should play it until the end or find some way to calculate it. Its not growing linear but maybe we can find the oscillations and calculate it then?

-Grammaton
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gfoot



Joined: 05 Sep 2007
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Heh, I didn't think of looking for a pattern... I just ran the simulation until the right generation.
Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:55 pm View user's profile Send private message
m!nus



Joined: 28 Jul 2007
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gfoot wrote:
Heh, I didn't think of looking for a pattern... I just ran the simulation until the right generation.
ouch Wink

there's 2 patterns in it which work in different a speed, don't forget this in your calculation.
Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:02 pm View user's profile Send private message
gfoot



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Heh, well brute force is inelegant, but it only takes a few seconds to run. Smile
Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:06 pm View user's profile Send private message
m!nus



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I would have done it that way aswell, but the program I used, Life32, only supports, as the name says, 32bit numbers. I was too lazy to do my own implementation and didn't know python back then.
Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:09 pm View user's profile Send private message
eike42



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I've simulated about 15k cycles on my own life implementation (because I did not find a simulation that exports me generation and count for every generation). Then I used brain to find all the periodics and wrote a program to calculate the numbers. After checking against my 15k numbers I let it calculate all the 10 billion numbers (took few days), but looks like the number is incorrect. Damn...
Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:08 am View user's profile Send private message
michelleboy



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answer to the original question is B
Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:09 pm View user's profile Send private message
MerickOWA



Joined: 07 Apr 2008
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Umm.... 10 billion is 10,000,000,000

as adum posted this is option a) in the user's original post.
Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:16 pm View user's profile Send private message
tog



Joined: 14 Nov 2008
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This ambiguity in English really sucks.
Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:04 pm View user's profile Send private message
MerickOWA



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For this website, the "short scale" of measurement is used.

1 Thousand = 1 000
Millions = 1 Thousand Thousands = 1 000 000
Billion = 1 Thousand Millions = 1 000 000 000
Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:14 pm View user's profile Send private message
Andr3w



Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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what am I doing wrong ?

.. or could it be that the challenge was changed until the last posts in this forum ?

at generation 4312 my population is about 500 ...
Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:27 pm View user's profile Send private message
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