Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:32 am
There is actually neither any reason to crash one, cause they are generally worthless.
You're not going to win this argument because you don;t know what you're talking about. If your goal is to knock a network offline, then DDoS the firewall and you've basically severed their connection, assuming they don't have a aback up firewall. And if you are attempting to get into the network, then you may just get lucky and the admins will do something stupid like remove the firewall in order to keep their connectivity.Liidian wrote:There is actually neither any reason to crash one, cause they are generally worthless.
You still can't DDoS or DoS a firewall, but hey! good luck anyway!plope0726 wrote:You're not going to win this argument because you don;t know what you're talking about. If your goal is to knock a network offline, then DDoS the firewall and you've basically severed their connection, assuming they don't have a aback up firewall. And if you are attempting to get into the network, then you may just get lucky and the admins will do something stupid like remove the firewall in order to keep their connectivity.Liidian wrote:There is actually neither any reason to crash one, cause they are generally worthless.
I refuse to argue with you any longer because you continue to fail to provide facts to back up this statement. Enjoy your ignorance.Liidian wrote:You still can't DDoS or DoS a firewall, but hey! good luck anyway!plope0726 wrote:You're not going to win this argument because you don;t know what you're talking about. If your goal is to knock a network offline, then DDoS the firewall and you've basically severed their connection, assuming they don't have a aback up firewall. And if you are attempting to get into the network, then you may just get lucky and the admins will do something stupid like remove the firewall in order to keep their connectivity.Liidian wrote:There is actually neither any reason to crash one, cause they are generally worthless.
Well, in diffrence from he / she i am rightkoolpop0 wrote:aside from the minor insults i didn't notice a argument here just a conversation -.-" liidan and plope
I did not mean argument as in two people yelling each other. I was referring to a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion. The problem with Liidian however is that he continues to repeat his conclusion yet provides no premise leading to that conclusion.koolpop0 wrote:aside from the minor insults i didn't notice a argument here just a conversation -.-" liidan and plope
Liidian wrote:Well, in diffrence from he / she i am rightkoolpop0 wrote:aside from the minor insults i didn't notice a argument here just a conversation -.-" liidan and plope
A masterstroke! I take my hat off to you.plope0726 wrote: I did not mean argument as in two people yelling each other. I was referring to a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion. The problem with Liidian however is that he continues to repeat his conclusion yet provides no premise leading to that conclusion.
you are right he's one of the people who sound to know what they are talking about unlike Lidian who always seems not to have a clue and just talkslaz0r wrote:A masterstroke! I take my hat off to you.plope0726 wrote: I did not mean argument as in two people yelling each other. I was referring to a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion. The problem with Liidian however is that he continues to repeat his conclusion yet provides no premise leading to that conclusion.
Thanks guys, it's not to see that not everyone is as clueless as poor liidian.baha'a wrote:you are right he's one of the people who sound to know what they are talking about unlike Lidian who always seems not to have a clue and just talkslaz0r wrote:A masterstroke! I take my hat off to you.plope0726 wrote: I did not mean argument as in two people yelling each other. I was referring to a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion. The problem with Liidian however is that he continues to repeat his conclusion yet provides no premise leading to that conclusion.
I'm reading now a days a book called "Hack proofing Linux: a guide to open source security" and it talks a lot about DDOS and one of the programs it mentions is "tfn2k" (go google it Lidian)
so I'm afraid they are real