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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:32 am
by Liidian
There is actually neither any reason to crash one, cause they are generally worthless.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:11 pm
by plope0726
Liidian wrote:There is actually neither any reason to crash one, cause they are generally worthless.
You're not going to win this argument because you don;t know what you're talking about. If your goal is to knock a network offline, then DDoS the firewall and you've basically severed their connection, assuming they don't have a aback up firewall. And if you are attempting to get into the network, then you may just get lucky and the admins will do something stupid like remove the firewall in order to keep their connectivity.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:32 pm
by Liidian
plope0726 wrote:
Liidian wrote:There is actually neither any reason to crash one, cause they are generally worthless.
You're not going to win this argument because you don;t know what you're talking about. If your goal is to knock a network offline, then DDoS the firewall and you've basically severed their connection, assuming they don't have a aback up firewall. And if you are attempting to get into the network, then you may just get lucky and the admins will do something stupid like remove the firewall in order to keep their connectivity.
You still can't DDoS or DoS a firewall, but hey! good luck anyway!

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:10 pm
by plope0726
Liidian wrote:
plope0726 wrote:
Liidian wrote:There is actually neither any reason to crash one, cause they are generally worthless.
You're not going to win this argument because you don;t know what you're talking about. If your goal is to knock a network offline, then DDoS the firewall and you've basically severed their connection, assuming they don't have a aback up firewall. And if you are attempting to get into the network, then you may just get lucky and the admins will do something stupid like remove the firewall in order to keep their connectivity.
You still can't DDoS or DoS a firewall, but hey! good luck anyway!
I refuse to argue with you any longer because you continue to fail to provide facts to back up this statement. Enjoy your ignorance.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:29 pm
by koolpop0
aside from the minor insults i didn't notice a argument here just a conversation -.-" liidan and plope

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:56 pm
by Liidian
koolpop0 wrote:aside from the minor insults i didn't notice a argument here just a conversation -.-" liidan and plope
Well, in diffrence from he / she i am right

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:35 pm
by plope0726
koolpop0 wrote:aside from the minor insults i didn't notice a argument here just a conversation -.-" liidan and plope
I did not mean argument as in two people yelling each other. I was referring to a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion. The problem with Liidian however is that he continues to repeat his conclusion yet provides no premise leading to that conclusion.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:45 pm
by PaRaDoX
Liidian wrote:
koolpop0 wrote:aside from the minor insults i didn't notice a argument here just a conversation -.-" liidan and plope
Well, in diffrence from he / she i am right

Dude.


You can do that to a firewall. Theoretically.


Send an assload of requests, firewall can't handle them, crashes.


Ta-dah?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:49 am
by koolpop0
liidan talks funny hehe l

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 6:51 am
by laz0r
plope0726 wrote: I did not mean argument as in two people yelling each other. I was referring to a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion. The problem with Liidian however is that he continues to repeat his conclusion yet provides no premise leading to that conclusion.
A masterstroke! I take my hat off to you.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:44 pm
by baha'a
laz0r wrote:
plope0726 wrote: I did not mean argument as in two people yelling each other. I was referring to a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion. The problem with Liidian however is that he continues to repeat his conclusion yet provides no premise leading to that conclusion.
A masterstroke! I take my hat off to you.
you are right he's one of the people who sound to know what they are talking about unlike Lidian who always seems not to have a clue and just talks

I'm reading now a days a book called "Hack proofing Linux: a guide to open source security" and it talks a lot about DDOS and one of the programs it mentions is "tfn2k" (go google it Lidian :) )

so I'm afraid they are real :lol:

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 2:19 am
by plope0726
baha'a wrote:
laz0r wrote:
plope0726 wrote: I did not mean argument as in two people yelling each other. I was referring to a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion. The problem with Liidian however is that he continues to repeat his conclusion yet provides no premise leading to that conclusion.
A masterstroke! I take my hat off to you.
you are right he's one of the people who sound to know what they are talking about unlike Lidian who always seems not to have a clue and just talks

I'm reading now a days a book called "Hack proofing Linux: a guide to open source security" and it talks a lot about DDOS and one of the programs it mentions is "tfn2k" (go google it Lidian :) )

so I'm afraid they are real :lol:
Thanks guys, it's not to see that not everyone is as clueless as poor liidian.